Mark Penn looks distinctly uncomfortable when I compliment him on his office. To be clear, it’s a nice office: Books line the wall in an elongated space full of wood finishes and comfortable chairs, 19 floors above Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue.

But it’s then I realize that Penn, the newly appointed CEO of MDC Partners, is barely a month into the office, and the job, and hasn’t had time to redecorate yet. The trappings are mostly of his predecessor, Scott Kauffman, who became CEO after founder Miles Nadal stepped down following an SEC investigation on executive pay back in 2015.

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